Who doesn’t like music? We at All Buttoned Up like all kinds of music but it better be loud! In this new ‘Play It Loud‘-series we talk to artists and bands that have a tight connection to OI!, ska, reggae, two-tone, punk, rock, and metal culture. We kick this one off with the Essex-based punk duo The Meffs. A few months ago they released their hot new EP ‘Broken Britain Pt.1’ through Bottles To The Ground Records. We hooked up with them and chatted about recording music during the pandemic with Frank Turner, touring, alternative culture and how The Meffs created their own subculture.
Introduction
Thank you guys for taking the time to talk with us! First of all happy new year! How are you doing?
OI OI! HAPPY NEW YEAR! We’re alright, prepping for a music video shoot as we speak. Buzzing for it.
Life in Essex
Woah. Cool. Looking forward to that one! Let’s go back in time a bit: how’s was life in Essex? Can you tell me a bit about how you grew up? How was life back then?
Essex is Essex. If you know it, you KNOW it. I grew up in a seaside town called Clacton. Again, if you know it, you KNOW it. You can’t live there without knowing at least a second cousin of mine – come from a big family.
Most of my upbringing was based on football to be honest. Spent most my spare time playing it as a teenager. Always had a love for music, rock in particular, but that got me shredded a lot in secondary school. If you weren’t into Dizzee Rascal or 50 Cent and listened to Nirvana, you got your head in the toilet. Got to a stage where I forced myself to listen to that just so I didn’t get a bashing. After a while I realized it was stupid to force myself into it and started listening to the music I loved again. But I do still know most the words to Fix Up Look Sharp.
The beginning of the band
The silly thing called internet told me that you guys have been around since 2019, so we can call you a newcomer to the scene or you were already involved in music before?
Yeah, The Meffs started about six months before the first lockdown in the UK. I was in one band as was Lewis, but this is the first serious one. Newcomers are good. I like that.
Some media outlets call you ‘Political Punk’. How’s Political Punk different from Punk?
Some people love a ‘subgenre’ and others say “punk is punk”. We don’t mind what we’re labelled. I think everyone has a different idea of what’s what. We think politics and issues in society belong in music, but we’ve also been called “woke” as a result. Bothered. I write about what’s going on around me and a lot of it has a policial or societal stance. It works for us and we’re proud of it.
New EP
In December last year you’ve released a brand new EP called ‘Broken Britain Part 1‘ produced by Frank Turner (Million Dead, solo career). That’s something interesting. Can you tell us something about the recording process with Frank and how this EP came alive?
What a great experience it was working with Frank, such a lovely bloke! Was an interesting start. Day 1 was my day of recording all the drum tracks. I’d felt a little off that day but got through it all. I then read about a lot of people at a recent Amyl and the Sniffers gig I’d attended catching Covid, so day 2 before I leave, I take a test and would you Adam and Eve it, I had Covid. Lily spent the rest of the week with Frank whilst I isolated to come back and finish off my backing vocals a couple months later. Needless to say, we had a great experience with Frank, didn’t seem to have any stress, was just a great week.
It went from having a finished product to “what next?” Frank helped with that too. Sent it to his mate, Mike, who emailed saying “I like your band a lot”. It was Fat Mike of NOFX. The rest is history. Bottles to the Ground and Fat Wreck Chords are an absolute force.
Last year you released a videoclip for the song ‘Wasted On Women‘. The chorus contains the lyrics ‘I wish you could see the world through my eyes, maybe then you would realise.‘
What should we realise?
How it feels to have the verses said to you on the regular! People getting judged and marginalised just for being. We’re not about sitting back and letting it happen. People are people. Respect doesn’t cost anything. Some people have no respect and could do with walking in the shoes of someone else for the day.
Another song that stood out for me was ‘Your English Is Great’. To me it sounds like that you’ve experienced some of those statements? Or what is it about?
This goes down well at shows. I used to tell a story before playing it about when my mum moved to England and got made to have elocution lessons. It’s a bit of social commentary. Our ‘leaders’ like to use the word ‘tolerant’ as a good thing. ‘Tolerating’ difference. Tolerance is putting up with something. It is not the same as ’embracing’. You hear comments like “are you gay? I don’t mind, just rather you didn’t do it near me!” It’s not banter mate. Sort yourself out. The phrase “your English is great”… I’ll be here all day if I break that down! Just think before you speak. The chorus is a personal reflection. Things happen around you when you’re young and you don’t always know any different. It’s not until you step out of it that you see what’s really going on. I go back to what I said earlier about Clacton. If you know it, you’ll get what I mean.
Message of The Meffs
What’s the main message that The Meffs would like to spread?
Stand up, speak out, you’re gonna die some day!
Why is the new EP called ‘Broken Britain Part 1?’ Is Britain broken? And is there a part 2 in the making?
We’ll let the public decide if it’s broken. Broken Britain Pt.2. It’s got a ring to it.
You toured a fair bit. How are the shows so far?
We love playing live. We’ve had some mad ones and they’re usually very lively. Selling out towns we’ve never been to, festivals… We just headlined a NYE show in our hometown to several hundred people and it was something else. Still not over it.
There’s been a couple less lively ones where you know the punters have probably got work the next day so can’t go too crazy, but to be honest at all our shows, we get such amazing feedback. We’re very chatty as it is so we love hanging back and talking everyone after, it’s nice to hear such kindness. Usually people throw faeces us in the street just for a laugh you know.
Future
What are your plans for the future?
UK headline tour this year. Europe. Nearly finished writing a load of new material for after Broken Britain. New merch. Support tours. Become full time!
Our community is all about subcultures, so what subculture you feel the most connected with an why?
We’ve been told we can’t be skins because we’ve got too much hair, we can’t be punks because we don’t have a stud count, we’re too trendy to be old school, but not trendy enough to fit in the new school alt punk scene. So The Meffs is its own subculture. One rule: No fascists. Welcome!
How did you come into contact with different subcultures? Where your friends a big influence on you, or you just walked into a bar or venue by yourself and discovered what you liked?
All sorts really. As a kid I’d been told about Sex Pistols, saw the case of a cassette for Never Mind the Bollocks and was roped in. Was then shown how the punks dressed at a neighbour’s fancy dress party. The internet was definitely a massive part, watching videos on YouTube of the old school punks, then led to a lot of Ska, etc. Then bands like Motörhead started my journey into a bit of the heavier stuff.
It’s not really a subculture but we love the current Aussie punk scene. The music and culture. Lewis definitely fits in with his Aussie mullet.
Fashion
What does the Fred Perry culture mean for you? When did you start wearing it?
I’ve worn a Fred polo shirt for as long as I can remember. I rarely don’t wear one on stage… Or off stage actually. We’ve got a funny Zoom video where Mike says you can tell that we’re from England because of the Freds I wear. It’s definitely become our trademark by accident. A good accident.
Fortunately, nowadays women are way more common (as it should be) in the music scene, but it wasn’t always like that. Do you feel comfortable and respected in the whole music scene you are in?
Like you say, women may be more visible in the alt scenes, but it’s like when people say “things are better now than they used to be” – they used to be naff, it’s hardly a benchmark! When a male sound tech talks to the male drummer about how he wants the guitar amp set up, when I’m stood on the stage with the guitar. Come on. I’ve been told to wear a dress on stage as it would be better for image. It goes on. I’m comfortable – It’s their issue if they’re not! The people we surround ourselves with – label, agent, listeners – are quality. We’re all here to change things and we’ll see that people involved with The Meffs are respected whatever their identity.
Do you think you could be making the same music if you would originate from another country? In other words: is the area you’re from a big influence on the music you make or can you make every style of music everywhere around the world?
Good question! Where we’re from is a big influence but what we sing about happens all over the world. I’m certain of that. Just take out the word ‘Britain’.
What do your parents think of your music and punk culture in general? 😉
The Meffs is their favourite band. They know what’s good!
Future
How do you think the alternative scene will be in the future?
If the alternative scene carries on the way it now, that would be amazing. I don’t see much rivalry between fans of certain genres these days, a lot of eclecticism.
Anything you would like to add to the readers and followers of All Buttoned Up? 🙂
Have a listen! Grab some merch! See you at a show near you! UP THE MEFFS.
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Last year The Meffs released their most recent EP ‘Broken Britain Pt.1‘! If you would like to support The Meffs the best way to do that is to stream their music, buy their merch, attend their shows and start following them on their socials:
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